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Summary Comments : [Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball

Jo************:
A precis of my earlier long post:

1. You assume that anything that's not luck is skill. However, variables like field dimensions in baseball can have systematic (that is, non-lucky) effects on results without being skills.
2. Goaltenders usually play the entire game in hockey, and often a goaltender's performance will win the game for their team even though the team was outplayed in general.
3. The conventional approach to this issue would be to estimate the effects of skill first, predict results, then calculate error (i. e. luck) as the difference between predicted and actual results.

 

 

Playtime Comments : [Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball

Da**********:

7:00 lower left guy
What? Huh? Oh, OH MY GOD WE WON!!!


Fo****:

4:57
Var haunts us football fans wherever we go.


Eu*******:

4:28 As a West Brom fan (WBA) I'm so glad you used this as the example!


Ma************:
0:35 that's a pretty sick beat

Br******:

3:18 let's just take a moment to appreciate Sidney Crosby embarrassing and undressing Spezza behind the net.


TH*******:

I just love the music fits in the beginning... so perfect 0:32


Mo**********:
6:33 was traumatic for me. Thanks for showing that

Ta*****:
4:23 That was literally the perfect time to mention Messi

Na****:

4:24 Soccer and hockey doesn't require such an outliner SKILL!


Jo**************:
6:35 "Baseball playoffs are the worst at ensuring that the best team wins."

Shows the 2006 Tigers getting swept by the Cardinals.


Me, a Tigers fan: ........ this doesn't make me feel better.

 

 

Top Comments : [Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball

Br***********:
Hockey has the quickest shift time in sports and the NHL has Salary caps to make the league more balanced so it would makes sense. I think this is why people are drawn to Hockey including myself. We love the underdog story and the ups and downs. It makes every victory that much more sweeter.

sc**********:
There's one big factor that seems to have been missed. Parity. Certain leagues have better balanced skill across all the teams. The NHL is a good example of a league with higher parity than say the NBA or the EPL. So most teams are fairly close to each other skill wise which is why it's not surprising when underdogs beat "better" teams.

There's also the issue of injuries which affect all sports and it's hard to measure the exact impact they have and how much of it is due to luck or poor training.

Ja*********:
imagine starting a game off a coin toss lol

Je***************:
cricket?? does match-fixing come under skill?

Me*************:

Same thing with poker. Skill is a big part of it, but the more you play the more the skills show. That's why the best players win in the long run.


Br*********:
Uhm, time of possession? That measures possession..

O*:
I think the NHL just has the tightest salary cap which increases the parity in skill between teams.

This study measures the luck in each league, but not the sport inherently

di**********:
I'm shocked soccer didn't have a higher random score as results among even matched teams seem completely random as it's a low scoring sport?

Tr********:

Here after the Blue Jackets swept the Lightning


Ma********:

2:00 Ice hockey is much more FLUID. ICE hockey is ....FLUID.....


Ay***:
You know what wouldve been savage? If the Cavs bought everyone in Golden State a copy of this book after they blew a 3-1 lead.

Ba*********:

Where is professional fidget spinning?


Jo*****************:

Vox, one of the best original and useful channel on YouTube. Please guys, more MORE MORE! The one of the few things I actually do and actually get smarter on YouTube!


ri*****:

So u telling me being 7 foot aint luck


Ma****************************:
6:58 I was there when that happened and the entire crowd blew up!

Re******:
Shows MLS on the scatter plot and proceeds to show a clip from the EPL

Pe*******:
They don't talk about a very important factor. How are teams built in a league? The fact that the american sports often try to level the playing field (wage-caps, draft positions) should have a heavy impact. Games in the KHL are way more predictable than games in the NHL, for instance. That also makes the inclusion of Premier League highly dubious. It's something that really should be a part of the equation.

Ed****:

How about analysis on different E-Sports? Luck or Skill which determinate more for winning in each game?


Fa****************:

To sum this up, because hockey is complex and individual players can NOT make or break a team. Possession is complex, shooting sample size is lower than NBO.
Additionally the reference how speed and emphasis on team play the most skilled players have LESS ability to influence the game.

This isstatistics looking at variance rates and sample size


br*****:

I know the kind of skill I'm referring to isn't the kind of skill being talked about in the video. But in terms of skill required to play each of the main sports hockey definitely requires the most. Not only is it one of the most physical sports apart from blood sports "and it even has some of that". But unlike the other main sports, you have to play while doing something most other athletes can't even do (Ice Skate).


An************:
This is my favourite hockey vs basketball video ever. Its not a matter of which is better but it kind of explains why one person might prefer one to the other depending on their preference of unpredictablity or skill based domination

Se**********:

Um... I guess this is right considering Columbus is up 3-0 to tampa

Edit: Colimbus swept! And I'm a blue jackets fan.


Wa********:
In the NHL there is literally A stat called Time of possession lol

Ja*********:

I love how they use the Premier league and then the MLS for there charts, makes a lot of sense


To**********:

One of the main reasons why there are more underdog stories in hockey is because the NHL does not necessarily have a certain 'stacked' team. The NBA, on GSW for example, out of 5 starters, 4 are all-stars. In the NHL, the most I can see is 5 per 20 men on Pittsburgh (Matt Murray, Phil Kessel, Kris Letang, Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin). Every other team has an average of 1 star per team. The NBA has all of their talent stacked onto 2-4 teams, and it is always those teams competing. The NHL has many teams with good players, so it is not uncommon for an upset to happen, for example, Nashville vs Chicago this year. That is basically the equivalent of the Pacers beating the Cavs in the NBA.


Be******:
Hockey players can shake off a check like nothing, and basketball players if they even get touched they get carried of the court

uu*********:

It's interesting the way the this study works. In reality what is being measured are the leagues and not the sports. NHL due to salary cap will never have a super team, thus increasing his "Luck" factor. But there are people taking this to measure the player skill in the comments, which is wrong. Ice hockey is arguably the most difficult team sport in the world due to speed, physicality and INDIVIDUAL skills such as skating, shooting, reflexes, and passing abilities which are all learned abilities. What makes a sport like basketball more difficult is the fact that we're not all born to be 7ft tall.

I don't mean to take anything away from basketball, because I'd lose to just about anyone, any size in that sport but just to reference the video he mentions that in Football there are few skill positions and the game mainly focuses on the head coach and quarterback. That's because no matter how skilled you are at blocking people, you're not going to be an NFL linemen if you're 5'6" 170lbs it's simply a physical impossibility and this was mentioned briefly about basketball players as well.


Ja**********:
I love how every hockey fan got sooooo up in arms over this video saying, "Hockey doesn't take luck! it's all skill" etc. If they actually watched the video, he says, ALL PROFESSIONAL SPORTS REQUIRE AN INSANE AMOUNT OF SKILL. it's just the flow of each sport. Basketball has an insane amount of chances, most of them are converted; in hockey there aren't that many clear cut chances to score. Same with any sport where there is a goal and goaltender. This video isn't a debate on which sport requires the most skill; it's to observe the differences each sport's outcomes result from both skill and luck combined. For team sports vs individual sports, it is easy to say that skill is the obvious factor in winning or losing, and the difference in skill is also more readily apparent. With more people in the game, the predictability of success isn't as clear cut. a really skilled player's contribution is less conducive to their team winning than if it were only him/her vs the other team's best player.

Ky********:
I get what the video is saying, but I feel like skill and luck don't quite translate to a real life explanation of the game. Skill is more than just what Sidney Crosby can do with the puck. The "skill" (as opposed to the entirely random pure dumb luck of a random team winning out of thirty teams) has to do with intense effort and responsible defence as much as it include offensive creativity and control or possession. Skill includes hard hits and gaining the confidence to play a good game. I think management and coaches have hockey down to such a defensive science that it isn't as hard to prevent a superstar like Sidney Crosby from scoring as it is to prevent Lebron James from scoring.
For the record, I'm not trying to say the video is wrong. I'm just explaining how the labelling of the two variables may have pissed off hockey and soccer fans.

 


 

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