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[Youtube Review][Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball
twoyou 2021. 3. 21. 08:48
Summary Comments : [Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball
1. You assume that anything that's not luck is skill. However, variables like field dimensions in baseball can have systematic (that is, non-lucky) effects on results without being skills.
2. Goaltenders usually play the entire game in hockey, and often a goaltender's performance will win the game for their team even though the team was outplayed in general.
3. The conventional approach to this issue would be to estimate the effects of skill first, predict results, then calculate error (i. e. luck) as the difference between predicted and actual results.
Playtime Comments : [Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball
Da**********:
7:00 lower left guy
What? Huh? Oh, OH MY GOD WE WON!!!
Fo****:
4:57
Var haunts us football fans wherever we go.
Eu*******:
4:28 As a West Brom fan (WBA) I'm so glad you used this as the example!
Br******:
3:18 let's just take a moment to appreciate Sidney Crosby embarrassing and undressing Spezza behind the net.
TH*******:
I just love the music fits in the beginning... so perfect 0:32
Na****:
4:24 Soccer and hockey doesn't require such an outliner SKILL!
Shows the 2006 Tigers getting swept by the Cardinals.
Me, a Tigers fan: ........ this doesn't make me feel better.
Top Comments : [Vox] Why underdogs do better in hockey than basketball
There's also the issue of injuries which affect all sports and it's hard to measure the exact impact they have and how much of it is due to luck or poor training.
Me*************:
Same thing with poker. Skill is a big part of it, but the more you play the more the skills show. That's why the best players win in the long run.
This study measures the luck in each league, but not the sport inherently
Tr********:
Here after the Blue Jackets swept the Lightning
Ma********:
2:00 Ice hockey is much more FLUID. ICE hockey is ....FLUID.....
Ba*********:
Where is professional fidget spinning?
Jo*****************:
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ri*****:
So u telling me being 7 foot aint luck
Ed****:
How about analysis on different E-Sports? Luck or Skill which determinate more for winning in each game?
Fa****************:
To sum this up, because hockey is complex and individual players can NOT make or break a team. Possession is complex, shooting sample size is lower than NBO.
Additionally the reference how speed and emphasis on team play the most skilled players have LESS ability to influence the game.
This isstatistics looking at variance rates and sample size
br*****:
I know the kind of skill I'm referring to isn't the kind of skill being talked about in the video. But in terms of skill required to play each of the main sports hockey definitely requires the most. Not only is it one of the most physical sports apart from blood sports "and it even has some of that". But unlike the other main sports, you have to play while doing something most other athletes can't even do (Ice Skate).
Se**********:
Um... I guess this is right considering Columbus is up 3-0 to tampa
Edit: Colimbus swept! And I'm a blue jackets fan.
Ja*********:
I love how they use the Premier league and then the MLS for there charts, makes a lot of sense
To**********:
One of the main reasons why there are more underdog stories in hockey is because the NHL does not necessarily have a certain 'stacked' team. The NBA, on GSW for example, out of 5 starters, 4 are all-stars. In the NHL, the most I can see is 5 per 20 men on Pittsburgh (Matt Murray, Phil Kessel, Kris Letang, Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin). Every other team has an average of 1 star per team. The NBA has all of their talent stacked onto 2-4 teams, and it is always those teams competing. The NHL has many teams with good players, so it is not uncommon for an upset to happen, for example, Nashville vs Chicago this year. That is basically the equivalent of the Pacers beating the Cavs in the NBA.
uu*********:
It's interesting the way the this study works. In reality what is being measured are the leagues and not the sports. NHL due to salary cap will never have a super team, thus increasing his "Luck" factor. But there are people taking this to measure the player skill in the comments, which is wrong. Ice hockey is arguably the most difficult team sport in the world due to speed, physicality and INDIVIDUAL skills such as skating, shooting, reflexes, and passing abilities which are all learned abilities. What makes a sport like basketball more difficult is the fact that we're not all born to be 7ft tall.
I don't mean to take anything away from basketball, because I'd lose to just about anyone, any size in that sport but just to reference the video he mentions that in Football there are few skill positions and the game mainly focuses on the head coach and quarterback. That's because no matter how skilled you are at blocking people, you're not going to be an NFL linemen if you're 5'6" 170lbs it's simply a physical impossibility and this was mentioned briefly about basketball players as well.
For the record, I'm not trying to say the video is wrong. I'm just explaining how the labelling of the two variables may have pissed off hockey and soccer fans.
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